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Wow, can’t believe It’s been so long since we posted here about how much Karl Leuders sucks… That, however, does not change the fact that he truly does suck. At this point we’re pretty sure that even his wife, or rather his former wife, Jill Lueders, would agree with us. Yes, Karl Lueders has divorced.

We had already heard about this, then somebody sent an email to our other blog which is all about how much Karl Leuders AND the Kentwood Company sucks. They claim to work at Janus, which is where Jill works and make reference to his, shall we say bad habits and lack of fidelity, as the cause for the split. Much like the commentor who posted a while back about Karl’s extra cirricular activities. 

Yes it’s our fault that Karl’s marriage fell apart and has nothing at all to do with the fact that he created this situation and apparently didn’t handle it very well at all, from anybody’s perspective! Of course over the period of 3 years now, he had every opportunity to make things right, with us as well as Jill.  And of course he didn’t.  He sent us an “apology” worthy of a politician caught sending photos of his privates to the entire world.  He had a chance to make ammends and instead all he did was whine about how much he is hurting because of the Kentwood Company Sucks and the Karl Lueders Sucks sites. We will delve futher into how he could have made things right but chose to lie and make false promises AGAIN, but that’s for another day.

The whole purpose for this blog and the other blog was to hold people accountable for THEIR OWN actions… apparently we have failed. Karl Leuders has missed the point (as usual).

We recently received an invitation in the mail to complete a survey for 5280 magazine here in Denver. Residents are familiar with the publications format of featuring “The Best ___  (fill in the blank) In Dever,” whether its restaurants or doctors or what have you. Well apparently later this year they’ll be dedicating an issue to “The Best Realtors in Denver.”  They sent the survey to us to participate because we are “recent home buyers”, which does seem odd since its actually been almost two years already (which is really hard to believe). But never have we been more happy to complete and submit a survey and tell them all about our fabulous experience with Karl Lueders and The Kentwood Company at Cherry Creek!

We’re hoping that they might include a small side bar about “the worst realtors in denver,” or maybe even take an interest in our story.

And speaking of surveys… we still haven’t found anybody who found Karl Lueders’ apology to be thoroughly sincere.

We were searching on google to find the official definitions and the difference between remorse and regret; and a real apology and a fake one where somebody says things like “I regret that you feel let down.” In the process I found this very funny article on nytimes.com. It’s not new but still relevant:

The Perfect Non-Apology Apology

THE Bush administration’s recent diplomatic success with China — when the spy plane crew was returned home because of the American ambassador’s letter — teaches that, with sufficiently artful double talk, you can get what you want by seeming to express regret while actually accepting no blame. And this can work even if you’re in the wrong! Study the examples below to see how this ingenious strategy can be used to resolve virtually any knotty impasse.

End of an affair:

Both sides can agree that our love affair is now over. It is in the context of this mutual understanding that I express my sincere regrets and share your friends’ and parents’ sorrow at your current discomfort. If, in your opinion, your sensibilities have been injured — despite my having made every possible effort to provide adequate forewarning — I believe that the prompt return of my Michael Bolton CD collection will bring closure to both sides and help begin the healing process.

Parking ticket:

Nobody is sorrier than me that the police officer had to spend his valuable time writing out a parking ticket on my car. Though from my personal standpoint I know for a certainty that the meter had not yet expired, please accept my expression of deep regret at this unfortunate incident. It is hoped that your dismissal of this ticket will mark both an end and a new beginning for both parties, marked by a mutual resolve to avoid such regrettable situations in future.

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It goes on to include examples of non-apologies for social gaffes and even medical malpractice, but you get the point.

It’s amusing yet sad and the reason we have brought it to your attention is to put the letter we received from Karl in context. Yes that’s right, after all this time Karl Lueders sent a letter of non-apology.

Click below to read it for yourself.

Thus far nobody who has read it found it to be sincere, but please let us know what you think.

It is a shame that people who care about Karl have been hurt, but that could have been avoided if he would have been willing to work towards a resolution when it mattered.

We recently received a comment from somebody who is apparently new to the site and who claims to know Karl Lueders personally, and who claims Karl Lueders is the salt of the earth. Here’s the censored version of what they had to say:

This is bull$#!+…..Karl is nothing more than a wonderful man with a big, sincere heart who would give the shirt off of his back to someone in need.
To me, this blog only serves as a self-portrait of your own stupidity and your pathetic attempt at trying to refocus blame upon someone else by defamation of their good character.

Karl Lueders DOES NOT SUCK but you, the “so-called brains” behind this reprehensible site are an obvious pompous ass!!
GET A LIFE………..
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To which we replied:

Now here we go again. Why is it that no one defending Karl can make a comment without using curse words, overused rejoinders or calling people names? It’s like they follow guidelines from bad internet trolls, or maybe that’s exactly what they are. Okay, allow [us] to retort…

We’re thrilled that you like Karl, but you know, he wasn’t able to make us take the site down because we haven’t told a lie. So he does in fact suck and he lied at our closing. If you took the time to read the things he’s said about himself you’d see that your belief in him is misplaced. He admits to being a thief, a liar and a drunk amongst a whole bunch of other things, in writing. So if you have a problem with Karl being defamed, you should take that problem up with the person who did more defaming of him than we ever did, that would be KARL LUEDERS.
With your limited vocabulary of curse words and your lame defense of Karl you’re doing him no favors.
Oh and seriously? ["GET A LIFE"]? This statement alone tells me exactly what we’re dealing with here. It’s about the lamest rejoinder there is and proves it’s YOU that needs to get or find one. You make me giggle.

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And it’s true.. nobody has ever managed to come to Karl’s defense without swearing and/or name-calling. What’s that about? And why the quotation marks around “so-called brains,” are you quoting somebody? Why do people do that?

Hmm..  wonder where Karl met this friend? Especially since another recent visitor left this comment:

.. Karl is still on dating sites. I had the misfortune of meeting him. He actually tells his prey he is separated from his wife but that they still share the same address for financial reasons. He says it’s an amicable split between he and Jill. Does Jill know that???

So, CJJ, if you met Karl Lueders online just remember there are plenty of fish!

Long time no post I guess, but we found this story on Fox 31 in Denver about a local guy who got screwed by his realtor even worse than we did:

A Denver man who accidentally spent $30,000 repairing and renovating a condo he moved into, but doesn’t own, has been ordered to vacate the premises by the real owner.

FOX 31 first reported this story in early March.

Jonathan Kyte began working on the unit 6 months ago and only learned recently that he didn’t own the unit. Instead, the City and County of Denver says he owns the unit next door.

He found out about the mistake almost by accident when he received a map which showed the unit he’s living is actually unit number 4.

But he owns the deed and title to unit number 5. Jonathon blames the Coldwell Banker listing agent for the mistake. She marketed the property and provided the key to the unit Jonathon and wife have been living in.

He called the listing agent again and again but she wouldn’t return his calls. He also called the title company, ” Colorado American Title,” and an employee promised to get back to him, but never did.

So Jonathon called Fox 31 News. We confronted the listing agent’s supervisor, but he would not comment on camera. He said their lawyers were looking into it.

Coincidentally the real estate agent behind this debacle is with Coldwell Banker. That’s where Karl Lueders started his illustrious real estate career! I wonder if they know each other (or if they’re commiserating over cocktails right now).

So I guess that’s where Karl Lueders learned not to accept responsibility or return phone calls! Although I’m sure they reinforce those lessons at the Kentwood Company at Cherry Creek.

Have you Googled Karl Lueders lately? (I’ll bet he has)

Try it… most likely you’ll first get the option to search on Carl with a “C” Lueders instead. Apparently there’s a Carl with a “C” who owns a distribution company and one who’s CFO of a pharmaceutical company. But if you stick to good ole’ Karl Lueders with a “K” what you’ll see is usually that:

(1)  The Kentwood Company Sucks – mostly because of Karl Lueders and his big lie.

(2) Karl Lueders Sucks

The order of these two changes from time-to-time and they are then followed by Karl Lueders’ own blog (which does occasionally make it up into the top 2), and his page on The Kentwood Company website.

Then there’s an exhaustive list where you can learn all you wanted to know and more about Karl Lueders on facebook.com; Karl Lueders on activerain.com; Karl Leuders on trulia.com; Karl Lueders on linkedin.com; and on and on and on. Oh and don’t forget you can also follow Karl Lueders with a “K” on twitter.com – stimulating, no doubt.

Dude, give it a rest!

Oh and btw, Yahoo agrees that Karl Lueders Sucks too!

Karl Lueders is a broker with the Kentwood Company at Cherry Creek where Gretchen Faber is one of the managing brokers.

Recently Gretchen posted on her own blog the importance of understanding real estate agency rules in Colorado. She further explains how important it is to have buyer’s agent who’s “in your corner.”

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..wow! What a novel concept?! Maybe Gretchen should remind the brokers that she recruits, like Karl Lueders, of that!

You can learn a lot more about Gretchen Faber (and her underwear) on our main site.

On our other site we received an interesting comment about Karl recently. First we received a few comments from people even more jaded than we are, stating they hoped we weren’t falling for Karl Lueders’ PR campaign regarding the fund raiser for the vet clinic. We figure even if it is just a pr stunt at least it’s for a great cause.

But then we got this:

Trixielarue Says:
Unfortunately, Karl’s unsavory antics are not just limited to his professional life. Although married, you can find him on many singles websites. Why is that I wonder?

Of course we are not and can not speak to the validity of this comment we have no knowledge of any such extra-curricular activity on Karl Lueders part. We always got the impression that he was a very happily married man in fact.

And we think we’re pretty jaded!

We had asked ourselves many times why we trusted Karl Lueders in the first place and why we stayed with him when things were going poorly. The answer was because very simply Karl loves his dogs. We are dog people, not everybody gets that, but those of you who have little fur kids of your own do.

Karl had a beautiful, black lab named Goethe (pronounced Gerta) and when we were working with him Goethe was going through treatment for lymphoma. Karl was truly broken up about it and we were totally empathetic. He even asked if we would be emergency contacts for his pet sitter when he went on vacation. Sadly, Goethe succumbed to the cancer and she was only five years old.

Now Karl has started a fund in Goethe’s name to help raise money for Harrison Memorial Animal Hospital here in Denver. They are a non-profit animal hospital providing care for pets whose parents are of lower income and may not be able to afford the veterinary care required. He is trying to raise $25000 for them over the next five years.

This is sincerely something to be commended, and we encourage anyone who loves animals or even anyone who feels we have been unfair to Karl to donate to “The Goethe Fund.”

The hard lesson we have had to learn is that just because somebody shares your opinion on dogs, or is kind to animals, doesn’t mean they always deserve the benefit of the doubt. And just because he loves his dogs doesn’t mean Karl Lueders is a good realtor.

Our friend who uses Twitter (we still don’t get it) showed us a recent “tweet” by Karl Lueders that she thought might interest amuse us:

kluederstweet1

Now of course we can’t know for sure that we are the “two idiots,” in question but for a moment lets assume we are. (It obviously wouldn’t be the first time he assumed we were idiots.)

When we wrote about the previous posts on Karl’s professional real estate blog that addressed controversial issues like racism, we were not saying or even implying that Karl Lueders is a racist. We were simply sharing what we found to be inappropriate language for a realtor affiliated with such a prestigious firm as The Kentwood Company at Cherry Creek, to use on the blog where he is trying to sell upscale homes in the Denver metro area. We read the posts in their entirety, we got the context – well, as best we could. We also encouraged others to read the comments in context, but doing so does not make the terminology any less inappropriate.
We can’t be the only ones who think so… otherwise, why remove the posts? Or maybe the posts were removed because Karl revealed himself as a rather unscrupulous character, with the misogynistic comments, and admitted drinking, pot smoking, gambling, and porn collecting.

Regardless, just for the record, we never said Karl Lueders was a racist.

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