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	<description>Outlining why Karl Lueders should be avoided if you're looking to buy or sell a home in the Denver Metro area</description>
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		<title>Comment on Karl Lueders&#8217; Bad Reputation by karl lueders sucks</title>
		<link>http://karlluederssucks.wordpress.com/2008/10/04/karl-lueders-bad-reputation/#comment-27</link>
		<dc:creator>karl lueders sucks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 09:09:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now here we go again.  Why is it that no one defending Karl can make a comment without using curse words, overused rejoinders or calling people names? It&#039;s like they follow guidelines from bad internet trolls, or maybe that&#039;s exactly what they are.  Okay, allow me to retort. 
CJJ or kandra1409@msn.com 65.71.133.57
We&#039;re thrilled that you like Karl but you know, he wasn&#039;t able to make us take the site down because we haven&#039;t told a lie.  So he does in fact suck and he lied at our closing. If you took the time to read the things he&#039;s said about himself you&#039;d see that your belief in him is misplaced.  He admits to being a thief, a liar and a drunk amongst a whole bunch of other things, in writing.  So if you have a problem with Karl being defamed, you should take that problem up with the person who did more defaming of him than we ever did, that would be KARL LUEDERS.  
With your limited vocabulary of curse words and your lame defense of Karl you&#039;re doing him no favors.
Oh and seriously? GAL? This statement alone tells me exactly what we&#039;re dealing with here. It&#039;s about the lamest rejoinder there is and proves it&#039;s YOU that needs to get or find one.  You make me giggle. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now here we go again.  Why is it that no one defending Karl can make a comment without using curse words, overused rejoinders or calling people names? It&#8217;s like they follow guidelines from bad internet trolls, or maybe that&#8217;s exactly what they are.  Okay, allow me to retort.<br />
CJJ or <a href="mailto:kandra1409@msn.com">kandra1409@msn.com</a> 65.71.133.57<br />
We&#8217;re thrilled that you like Karl but you know, he wasn&#8217;t able to make us take the site down because we haven&#8217;t told a lie.  So he does in fact suck and he lied at our closing. If you took the time to read the things he&#8217;s said about himself you&#8217;d see that your belief in him is misplaced.  He admits to being a thief, a liar and a drunk amongst a whole bunch of other things, in writing.  So if you have a problem with Karl being defamed, you should take that problem up with the person who did more defaming of him than we ever did, that would be KARL LUEDERS.<br />
With your limited vocabulary of curse words and your lame defense of Karl you&#8217;re doing him no favors.<br />
Oh and seriously? GAL? This statement alone tells me exactly what we&#8217;re dealing with here. It&#8217;s about the lamest rejoinder there is and proves it&#8217;s YOU that needs to get or find one.  You make me giggle.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Karl Lueders&#8217; Bad Reputation by CJJ</title>
		<link>http://karlluederssucks.wordpress.com/2008/10/04/karl-lueders-bad-reputation/#comment-26</link>
		<dc:creator>CJJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 21:47:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is bullshit.....Karl is nothing more than a wonderful man with a big, sincere heart who would give the shirt off of his back to someone in need. 

To me, this blog only serves as a self-portrait of your own stupidity and your pathetic attempt at trying to refocus blame upon someone else by defamation of their good character.  

Karl Lueders DOES NOT SUCK but you, the &quot;so-called brains&quot; behind this reprehensible site are an obvious pompous ass!!

GET A LIFE...........</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is bullshit&#8230;..Karl is nothing more than a wonderful man with a big, sincere heart who would give the shirt off of his back to someone in need. </p>
<p>To me, this blog only serves as a self-portrait of your own stupidity and your pathetic attempt at trying to refocus blame upon someone else by defamation of their good character.  </p>
<p>Karl Lueders DOES NOT SUCK but you, the &#8220;so-called brains&#8221; behind this reprehensible site are an obvious pompous ass!!</p>
<p>GET A LIFE&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>Comment on More on Karl Lueders by Mnypny</title>
		<link>http://karlluederssucks.wordpress.com/read-more/#comment-25</link>
		<dc:creator>Mnypny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 21:05:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, Karl Leuders still sucks. Karl is still on dating sites. I had the misfortune of meeting him. He actually tells his prey he is separated from his wife but that they still share the same address for financial reasons. He says it&#039;s an amicable split between he and Jill. Does Jill know that???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Karl Leuders still sucks. Karl is still on dating sites. I had the misfortune of meeting him. He actually tells his prey he is separated from his wife but that they still share the same address for financial reasons. He says it&#8217;s an amicable split between he and Jill. Does Jill know that???</p>
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		<title>Comment on More on Karl Lueders by Trixie Larue</title>
		<link>http://karlluederssucks.wordpress.com/read-more/#comment-21</link>
		<dc:creator>Trixie Larue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 22:18:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes Karl Leuders does suck.  And his unsavory actions are not limited to his professional life unfortunately.  You can find Karl on many &quot;dating&quot; sites looking for love, yet last time I checked he was still married.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes Karl Leuders does suck.  And his unsavory actions are not limited to his professional life unfortunately.  You can find Karl on many &#8220;dating&#8221; sites looking for love, yet last time I checked he was still married.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Karl Lueders has a lawyer by Karl Lueders hires incompetent people like himself &#171; Karl Lueders Sucks</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karl Lueders hires incompetent people like himself &#171; Karl Lueders Sucks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 23:01:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] think after we received and posted about the Cease &amp; Desist letter we received a lawyer that Karl Lueders retained, we assumed we would be hearing more from him and [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Explaining Karl Lueders by karl lueders sucks</title>
		<link>http://karlluederssucks.wordpress.com/2008/08/23/explaining-karl-lueders/#comment-17</link>
		<dc:creator>karl lueders sucks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 10:06:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah his one listing for the house in the photo on his blog, he&#039;s had that one since before we were working with him.  I think the price has been reduced repeatedly and yet still no sale.
  
But yeah the ego, huge he&#039;s a real piece of work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah his one listing for the house in the photo on his blog, he&#8217;s had that one since before we were working with him.  I think the price has been reduced repeatedly and yet still no sale.</p>
<p>But yeah the ego, huge he&#8217;s a real piece of work.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Explaining Karl Lueders by TeamKlemm</title>
		<link>http://karlluederssucks.wordpress.com/2008/08/23/explaining-karl-lueders/#comment-16</link>
		<dc:creator>TeamKlemm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 04:01:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just spent some time following several links to &quot;All Things Karl&quot; ....Lord, what an EGO this guy has....and how many websites touting how wonderful he thinks he is....master snowboarder.....renowned journalist....getting a book deal...traveling to Europe.....he gave it all up for his love of real estate....yea...suuuuure.....UGH.....what a fake...anyway, I digress.....

I was mostly interested in seeing how many listings he had. One site had &quot;featured listings&quot; and of course, it had ALL the company listings....but many websites will do that, especially the corporate ones....anyway, I trolled around some more and it appears he is carrying only 3 listings....I wouldn&#039;t exactly call that &quot;white hot shit&quot; in my book.....

The more I read about Karl (from his own pen by the way) the more he comes across as an ego maniacle baffoon.....

Tar and feathers seem appropriate...
--Lisa</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just spent some time following several links to &#8220;All Things Karl&#8221; &#8230;.Lord, what an EGO this guy has&#8230;.and how many websites touting how wonderful he thinks he is&#8230;.master snowboarder&#8230;..renowned journalist&#8230;.getting a book deal&#8230;traveling to Europe&#8230;..he gave it all up for his love of real estate&#8230;.yea&#8230;suuuuure&#8230;..UGH&#8230;..what a fake&#8230;anyway, I digress&#8230;..</p>
<p>I was mostly interested in seeing how many listings he had. One site had &#8220;featured listings&#8221; and of course, it had ALL the company listings&#8230;.but many websites will do that, especially the corporate ones&#8230;.anyway, I trolled around some more and it appears he is carrying only 3 listings&#8230;.I wouldn&#8217;t exactly call that &#8220;white hot shit&#8221; in my book&#8230;..</p>
<p>The more I read about Karl (from his own pen by the way) the more he comes across as an ego maniacle baffoon&#8230;..</p>
<p>Tar and feathers seem appropriate&#8230;<br />
&#8211;Lisa</p>
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		<title>Comment on Karl Lueders Has Issues by TeamKlemm</title>
		<link>http://karlluederssucks.wordpress.com/2008/08/09/karl-lueders-has-issues/#comment-15</link>
		<dc:creator>TeamKlemm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 03:28:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmmm....drugs, alcohol, porn and gambling.....being that he is a Realtor, it&#039;s all probably for medicinal puposes.....

JUST KIDDING! 

not so much about the alcohol part though......I had to buy my own personal frozen margarita machine just to get through this sub prime mess ;)

--Lisa</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmmm&#8230;.drugs, alcohol, porn and gambling&#8230;..being that he is a Realtor, it&#8217;s all probably for medicinal puposes&#8230;..</p>
<p>JUST KIDDING! </p>
<p>not so much about the alcohol part though&#8230;&#8230;I had to buy my own personal frozen margarita machine just to get through this sub prime mess <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>&#8211;Lisa</p>
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		<title>Comment on Karl Lueders has bad Karma (wonder why??) by karl lueders sucks</title>
		<link>http://karlluederssucks.wordpress.com/2008/07/24/karl-lueders-has-bad-karma-wonder-why/#comment-11</link>
		<dc:creator>karl lueders sucks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 05:32:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Lisa, thanks for the comment.  Obviously if we had to do over again, things would be very different, Karl would no longer have been our Realtor and I&#039;d like to think we would be in a better home, in the original area we were looking. 

Since we don&#039;t have the way back machine, any of the things you offer would be wonderful.  Had we been treated with respect in the first place, well this probably wouldn&#039;t have happened but when it did, having Karl fess up and come to us and apologize would have gone a LONG way.  
Honestly we don&#039;t have any hope that Kentwood or Karl will be ponying up any money, it would be nice and it would certainly be nice considering the repairs are about 12.5% of the cost of the home.  When we sat down with Karl&#039;s managing broker she asked what we wanted and we said we wanted to be made whole.  We even asked, if it turns out this isn&#039;t the fault of Karl and/or Kentwood, would they help us out with who might be and tell us how to approach it.  She said the would do that.  She asked us to submit estimates, we did as we were asked and we got no response from Kentwood and certainly they did not try to help us sort the matter out.

The tragedy in this is that we were treated poorly and then ignored and so that just compounded the situation.  There have been a number of opportunities for someone, anyone to step up and do the right thing, or at least try to make ammends and they have instead chosen not to.  

We are fixing things as we go, if something works out, if Kentwood or Karl steps up, great, but our life will go on, we will have learned, we do wonder, have they?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Lisa, thanks for the comment.  Obviously if we had to do over again, things would be very different, Karl would no longer have been our Realtor and I&#8217;d like to think we would be in a better home, in the original area we were looking. </p>
<p>Since we don&#8217;t have the way back machine, any of the things you offer would be wonderful.  Had we been treated with respect in the first place, well this probably wouldn&#8217;t have happened but when it did, having Karl fess up and come to us and apologize would have gone a LONG way.<br />
Honestly we don&#8217;t have any hope that Kentwood or Karl will be ponying up any money, it would be nice and it would certainly be nice considering the repairs are about 12.5% of the cost of the home.  When we sat down with Karl&#8217;s managing broker she asked what we wanted and we said we wanted to be made whole.  We even asked, if it turns out this isn&#8217;t the fault of Karl and/or Kentwood, would they help us out with who might be and tell us how to approach it.  She said the would do that.  She asked us to submit estimates, we did as we were asked and we got no response from Kentwood and certainly they did not try to help us sort the matter out.</p>
<p>The tragedy in this is that we were treated poorly and then ignored and so that just compounded the situation.  There have been a number of opportunities for someone, anyone to step up and do the right thing, or at least try to make ammends and they have instead chosen not to.  </p>
<p>We are fixing things as we go, if something works out, if Kentwood or Karl steps up, great, but our life will go on, we will have learned, we do wonder, have they?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Karl Lueders has bad Karma (wonder why??) by TeamKlemm</title>
		<link>http://karlluederssucks.wordpress.com/2008/07/24/karl-lueders-has-bad-karma-wonder-why/#comment-10</link>
		<dc:creator>TeamKlemm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 05:16:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a real shame this happened. This industry is filled with people that have absolutely NO BUSINESS being in the real estate business. Here in the great state of Texas a person only needs 210 hours of school to become a Realtor but  1500 HOURS of schooling to cut hair! lol! How messed up is THAT??!! The thing I don&#039;t get is how does someone like this get tp be the #1 agent in the area? Well, I can probably answer my own question. Around here, a Realtor can sell 5 homes and be a &quot;multi-million dollar producer, #1 agent, rah rah rah, I am the greatest&quot; That&#039;s why my husband and I advertise we sell THE MOST in terms of closed sales. We may not be the highest in dollar volume but I get more deals to closing than anyone.

I haven&#039;t had the opportunity to read thru all your posts and maybe you address this but the one thing I did find disturbing was from an earlier post :

&quot;The important thing here, is that the night before closing there were emails traded with Karl Lueders about the condition of the home and how upset I was about things that were going on. I mentioned that if the house wasn’t brought back to the condition it was in when I signed the offer (it wasn’t) that I would walk. I also expressed that I wasn’t happy with how I was being treated, I even asked to see a different house.&quot;

I am sure you know this now since hindsight is 20/20 but really, if you were uncomfortable with this huge purchase in ANY WAY, you should NOT have signed the paperwork. I do understand though, especially as inexperienced buyers, you are nervous, scared, excited, ect. and those emotions get in the way but I am sure you acknowledge you probably should have put the brakes on.

Let me ask you this, where do you want this to go from here? Obviously you want someone to take responsibility, rightly so. I am sure a lot of this could have been avoided if SOMEONE had just said &quot;I fucked up&quot; but what now? Do you want someone to pay for all the repairs or do you expect someone to buy this house back? or do you just want an appology? I am just curious.

You know, I had a deal a few months back with some friends (always a BAD IDEA) and we represented them in the purchase of a home on some acerage. We had an issue with the lender. The lender THOUGHT she could get them a USDA loan with no $ down so my friends sold their home dirt cheap so they could buy this one and fix it up. 3 days before closing we discovered the loan officer screwed up and the property was inelligible for that kind of loan. She tried desperately to cram them into an FHA product with them bringing 3% to the table but we couldn&#039;t get that to fly either. In a desperate attempt to get them SOMETHING (after all, my friends were going to be HOMELESS in less than 48 hours, remember, they already SOLD their existing home) I called the pres. of the bank and got them in a loan product with 10% down. Obviously, my firends were PISSED and rightfully so. So we sat at the closing table, them getting the home of their dreams but under terrible circumstances. Before they even broke out the papers I said &quot;I want to make ABSOLUTELY SURE that you want to do this. If you don&#039;t, we will figure it out. I can get you into a rental, we can start over and find something else where you don&#039;t have to plunk down $15,000&quot; But they said yes, they wanted to continue so they wouldn&#039;t lose the house. I had to be absolutely sure this was what THEY WANTED to do. In the thick of it all, my friends got it in their head they were going to get that $15,000 back from the bank since their representative screwed up but there is NO WAY that is going to happen and frankly, it&#039;s an unreasonable request. The loan officer made a mistake and she readily addmitted it and tried desperately to fix it but you can&#039;t get blood from a turnip. I really hope they just let it go because she is genuinely a good person and we all do make mistakes, you know? 

Paul and I have spent a lot of time and energy teaching our kids to just suck it up and admit when they screw up. People are so much more likely to forgive you if you just look them straight in the eye, say &quot;YES, I blew it&quot; and ask for forgivness and offer to do whatever you can to make it better. I bet Karl wished he had done that.

Good luck!
--Lisa</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a real shame this happened. This industry is filled with people that have absolutely NO BUSINESS being in the real estate business. Here in the great state of Texas a person only needs 210 hours of school to become a Realtor but  1500 HOURS of schooling to cut hair! lol! How messed up is THAT??!! The thing I don&#8217;t get is how does someone like this get tp be the #1 agent in the area? Well, I can probably answer my own question. Around here, a Realtor can sell 5 homes and be a &#8220;multi-million dollar producer, #1 agent, rah rah rah, I am the greatest&#8221; That&#8217;s why my husband and I advertise we sell THE MOST in terms of closed sales. We may not be the highest in dollar volume but I get more deals to closing than anyone.</p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t had the opportunity to read thru all your posts and maybe you address this but the one thing I did find disturbing was from an earlier post :</p>
<p>&#8220;The important thing here, is that the night before closing there were emails traded with Karl Lueders about the condition of the home and how upset I was about things that were going on. I mentioned that if the house wasn’t brought back to the condition it was in when I signed the offer (it wasn’t) that I would walk. I also expressed that I wasn’t happy with how I was being treated, I even asked to see a different house.&#8221;</p>
<p>I am sure you know this now since hindsight is 20/20 but really, if you were uncomfortable with this huge purchase in ANY WAY, you should NOT have signed the paperwork. I do understand though, especially as inexperienced buyers, you are nervous, scared, excited, ect. and those emotions get in the way but I am sure you acknowledge you probably should have put the brakes on.</p>
<p>Let me ask you this, where do you want this to go from here? Obviously you want someone to take responsibility, rightly so. I am sure a lot of this could have been avoided if SOMEONE had just said &#8220;I fucked up&#8221; but what now? Do you want someone to pay for all the repairs or do you expect someone to buy this house back? or do you just want an appology? I am just curious.</p>
<p>You know, I had a deal a few months back with some friends (always a BAD IDEA) and we represented them in the purchase of a home on some acerage. We had an issue with the lender. The lender THOUGHT she could get them a USDA loan with no $ down so my friends sold their home dirt cheap so they could buy this one and fix it up. 3 days before closing we discovered the loan officer screwed up and the property was inelligible for that kind of loan. She tried desperately to cram them into an FHA product with them bringing 3% to the table but we couldn&#8217;t get that to fly either. In a desperate attempt to get them SOMETHING (after all, my friends were going to be HOMELESS in less than 48 hours, remember, they already SOLD their existing home) I called the pres. of the bank and got them in a loan product with 10% down. Obviously, my firends were PISSED and rightfully so. So we sat at the closing table, them getting the home of their dreams but under terrible circumstances. Before they even broke out the papers I said &#8220;I want to make ABSOLUTELY SURE that you want to do this. If you don&#8217;t, we will figure it out. I can get you into a rental, we can start over and find something else where you don&#8217;t have to plunk down $15,000&#8243; But they said yes, they wanted to continue so they wouldn&#8217;t lose the house. I had to be absolutely sure this was what THEY WANTED to do. In the thick of it all, my friends got it in their head they were going to get that $15,000 back from the bank since their representative screwed up but there is NO WAY that is going to happen and frankly, it&#8217;s an unreasonable request. The loan officer made a mistake and she readily addmitted it and tried desperately to fix it but you can&#8217;t get blood from a turnip. I really hope they just let it go because she is genuinely a good person and we all do make mistakes, you know? </p>
<p>Paul and I have spent a lot of time and energy teaching our kids to just suck it up and admit when they screw up. People are so much more likely to forgive you if you just look them straight in the eye, say &#8220;YES, I blew it&#8221; and ask for forgivness and offer to do whatever you can to make it better. I bet Karl wished he had done that.</p>
<p>Good luck!<br />
&#8211;Lisa</p>
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